tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post9210491226142315882..comments2024-03-28T06:00:49.647+00:00Comments on Landed families of Britain and Ireland: (354) Balme (later Wheatley-Balme and Jones-Balme) of Cote Wall and High CloseNick Kingsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-18426231398184824072022-11-26T00:26:04.254+00:002022-11-26T00:26:04.254+00:00The Balme name seems to originate from northern It...The Balme name seems to originate from northern Italy near the AlpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-68482780175173732332021-11-17T16:33:21.683+00:002021-11-17T16:33:21.683+00:00Many thanks for these various references, which I ...Many thanks for these various references, which I am sure people will find interesting. I have not heard Huguenot origins suggest for the family, but I think it is credible, as the name doesn't sound very English.<br />Nick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-49643501660704851982021-11-14T16:39:22.950+00:002021-11-14T16:39:22.950+00:00Hi Nick,
Re Abraham Balme 1706-96
The plaque you ...Hi Nick,<br /><br />Re Abraham Balme 1706-96<br />The plaque you mention by Flaxman is in Bradford Cathedral a nice you tube video that the cathedral produced during lockdown shows it off;<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwA6qPSdXo<br /><br />Balme lived within a stones throw of the Cathedral (previously the Parish Church) in a house he had built to keep an eye on the goings on in the now long gone canal basin. As the Bradford Canal was proposed in 1771 I’m guessing that he had this house built around this time which is around the date of Thomas Pigott’s death of Bolling Hall whom Balme was Land Steward for.<br />The house still stands and is in a bit of a sorry state. Most Bradford people remember it as the Ring O Bells pub. It’s just by Balme Street named after Abraham.<br /><br />http://www.bradfordhistorical.org.uk/ringobells.html<br /><br />You touched on his involvement in the Leeds Liverpool Canal there are some old documents on the internet from the House of Commons dated 27th February 1770 where he along with John Hustler went to the House of Commons. These documents suggest that he took the proposal for the first cutting of the Leeds Liverpool Canal which they along with other Bradford entrepreneurs had surveyed, costed and raised initial funds for.<br />Abraham is stated as saying that £160,000 had already been raised and that there wouldn’t be problems with raising additional money. I think shares in this canal and the subsequent short Bradford canal contributed to family wealth.<br />One of his main interest was getting a canal link from the limestone quarries at Gargrave, Skipton to Bradford for his interests in Lime where the lime kilns were located near the canal basin where his house overlooked. Bradford had large ironworks which needed lime also the limestone for building. Along with lime,stone and coal also his aunt Mary Hodgeson was a landowner and leased land with substantial mills on them at Hewenden (close to Thornton) She was the main contributor to the Bradford canal she put in £1000 and Balme the second main investor put in £600. <br />I don’t think he was one to miss a trick! He is quoted in local Bradford history books as apparently he wrote a diary on the building of the canal, I’ve not seen it I think it’s in a public achieve (possibly Wakefield) Not sure if this link to House of Commons document will work;<br /><br />https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wz1IAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA725&lpg=PA725&dq=john+hustler+abraham+balme+Leeds+Liverpool+canal+proposal&source=bl&ots=oANPx5N5zo&sig=ACfU3U2eyygZzH647nricEcfPqvsgk0k4Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi90b3AkZj0AhX1QUEAHSvxB_sQ6AF6BAgTEAM#v=onepage&q=john%20hustler%20abraham%20balme%20Leeds%20Liverpool%20canal%20proposal&f=false<br /><br />I’ve seen several references that the Balme family previously to coming to Thornton, Bradford are believed to be of French Huguenot stock and would be very interested to here if you’ve heard or seen evidence of this?<br /><br /><br />All the best <br />SallySally Duroehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311184820838138861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-41637147725568195002021-01-15T12:11:01.384+00:002021-01-15T12:11:01.384+00:00Yes indeed; thank you very much!Yes indeed; thank you very much!Nick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-64144157924209100912021-01-14T18:03:30.056+00:002021-01-14T18:03:30.056+00:00Found a reference to Edward Wheatley-Balme on the ...Found a reference to Edward Wheatley-Balme on the Selwyn College website https://www.sel.cam.ac.uk/about/selwyn-library/history-selwyn-library<br />They received a donation from him (his estate?) in 1896. <br />He was instrumental in founding a boys reformatory in 1855, rented one of his farms and managed the home http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MirfieldRfy/<br />Cote Wall is divided into luxury apartments. Hope this is of interest. David Canthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537030329353028411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-32191229702472821132019-03-27T06:42:59.378+00:002019-03-27T06:42:59.378+00:00First of all, my apologies for the delay in publis...First of all, my apologies for the delay in publishing this comment, which was due to a software glitch than meant I wasn't aware you had submitted it until today. I am most grateful to you for the additional research on Mitchell and Sadler. I don't immediately see what the connection you postulate would be, and I think it more likely that they were linked only by the sale of Cote Wall, but I stand to be corrected!Nick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-72963998373885450672018-11-29T17:23:43.622+00:002018-11-29T17:23:43.622+00:00Sir,
Frank Percy Mitchell appears to be he b. 1877...Sir,<br />Frank Percy Mitchell appears to be he b. 1877 (s. of Joshua Mitchell [b. 1836], of West Park Street, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, 'cashier to woollen manufactory co.' according to the 1881 census, by his wife [m. 1860] Sarah Jane [née Crowther]), d. 1970 (according to his probate record, at 101, Birkby Hall Road), Huddersfield. An Edith Lizzie Mitchell 'of Cote Wall, Mirfield, Yorkshire (as per her probate record) d. 1941; marriage records show the two married in 1901. Additionally, Edith's probate record gives her husband as 'Frank Percy Mitchell, woollen manufacturer'; he is listed as one of two directors of such a company in 'The Wool Record and Textile World' vol. 17 (1920).<br /><br />Leslie Sadler d. aet. 68, so was b. c. 1887 [according to the census and other records, it seems to be he born 1885 at Carlisle, Cumberland, s. of Frank William Sadler (b. 1857), according to the 1891 census a 'public elementary school' master, and [m. 1884] Emma (née Sewell); by 1911 Leslie was a secondary-school master, which profession he presumably always followed]; his probate record mentions widow Elsie Causier Sadler and 'Frank William Noel Sadler of no occupation' (possibly their son; I couldn't locate a birth record, but there is a 1992 Dewsbury, Yorkshire death record for 'Frank William N. Sadler' b. 1915, and no other possibilities amongst UK records; I unfortunately couldn't find a probate record for further details). There is a 1912 marriage record for Leslie Sadler and Elsie C. Bridge, which seems to refer to these individuals.<br /><br />Might not the common relationship to Dewsbury and the name 'Frank' (both possibly coincidental, admittedly) perhaps indicate some kind of relationship between these two families?<br /><br />Forgive the length of this comment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com