tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post5250527583451122914..comments2024-03-28T06:00:49.647+00:00Comments on Landed families of Britain and Ireland: (8) Abney of Measham HallNick Kingsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-60843544199433779342021-02-24T15:35:10.027+00:002021-02-24T15:35:10.027+00:00Peter,
Assuming I have correctly identified your h...Peter,<br />Assuming I have correctly identified your house as this building (https://ww2.zoopla.co.uk/property/stanhope-house/leicester-road/measham/swadlincote/de12-7jg/6428783/) it was obviously altered in the late 19th or early 20th century, but the core fabric is probably earlier. The fine jointing of the brickwork and the form of the brick cornice suggest that, but the asymmetrical plan makes me think that it is probably not much before 1840. It would be worth checking to see whether the dimensions and colour of the bricks used all round the house are the same, and also whether the mortar joints and brick bond are the same all round. If there are differences, it might suggest that an originally single-room lodge (perhaps of the late 18th or early 19th century) has been enlarged later. Hope that helps a bit. Nick KingsleyNick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-53717631838483740402021-02-23T20:05:16.715+00:002021-02-23T20:05:16.715+00:00Hello there.
I live in the gate house to Measham ...Hello there. <br />I live in the gate house to Measham Hall. I have tried to find any information on any of the original inhabitants but to no avail. Also can I assume, as yet again a lack of information, that the gate house, now known as Stanhope house (?) was built at around the same time as the Hall? Peter Cantwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625252601049331379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-19159638040196619202015-11-01T21:18:48.801+00:002015-11-01T21:18:48.801+00:00Sadly I am not aware of the survival of an archive...Sadly I am not aware of the survival of an archive of the estate. You could contact the Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland in case they hold any uncatalogued records which might help you. Contact details are here (cut and paste this link into you browser): http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13531712<br /><br />NickNick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-11109652206879402272015-11-01T19:15:48.442+00:002015-11-01T19:15:48.442+00:00I'm trying to find out if a family member work...I'm trying to find out if a family member worked at Measham Hall. Are there any records of staff ?<br />Many thanks<br />Ruth Cobley Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17851951837184196190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-55349738643614511782014-11-06T06:40:58.982+00:002014-11-06T06:40:58.982+00:00I assume most of the Measham branch were buried at...I assume most of the Measham branch were buried at Measham. The registers survive from 1681 onwards (see http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/measham/availablechurchandburialrecords.html). The Abneys of Willesley may similarly be mainly at Willesley, where the burial registers survive from 1617 (see http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/willesley/availablechurchandburialrecords.html).Both sets of records can be found at the Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland at Wigston (http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/community/museums/record_office.htm)<br />Hope this helps.<br />Nick KingsleyNick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-56278333514438256962014-11-05T18:25:02.804+00:002014-11-05T18:25:02.804+00:00Need a starting point/recommendation to find the b...Need a starting point/recommendation to find the burial locations of the Measham ( and Willesley) Abneys. Robert Abney, USA...7th g-grandson of Edmund Abney, Leicester.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-14430815668187212792013-10-22T08:16:02.773+01:002013-10-22T08:16:02.773+01:00Thank you for getting in touch. If you would be h...Thank you for getting in touch. If you would be happy for me to include an image of the painting of Capt. WW Abney in the blog I should be very pleased to have a photograph of it. Do you have my email address? I am not clear what the inscription on the other painting implies ("the inherited daughter" is a new phrase to me); is it clear who it was a gift from? It seems possible it could be from Elizabeth's side of the family, and hence not of an Abney at all. Certainly the name James Abney does not occur in this branch of the family, although it was extensively used in the 17th century among the Abneys of Willesley Hall.<br />Nick KingsleyNick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-35546456033170392622013-10-21T12:53:42.328+01:002013-10-21T12:53:42.328+01:00Love the genealogy you have pulled together on the...Love the genealogy you have pulled together on the Abney's of Measham. I have 2 large early 19c oil paintings originally from Measham Hall. One is of Cap't William Wooton painted in 1815 in his Blues uniform. The other was painting of a lady in the manner of Sir Peter Lely and inscribed as a wedding gift to Elizabeth Richards (when she married for the 3rd time) to Robert Abney in 1800, as the inherited daughter of "James" (? should this be Robert?)_Abney.<br />If you want me to send you any pictures just let me know. Anything to clear up the James reference would help, was it a middle or pet name for Robert? or just a mistake around names? <br />Regards<br />Graham JarvisGraham Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163371884471067696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-9274155168375221882013-06-20T06:30:22.837+01:002013-06-20T06:30:22.837+01:00Thank you for this correction. It is easy to see ...Thank you for this correction. It is easy to see how the mistake has been made, as both Hephzibah's father and brother were called Samuel. I have amended the entry accordingly.Nick Kingsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588322361791532910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-704095971276575721.post-39911576510971170442013-06-19T23:40:32.537+01:002013-06-19T23:40:32.537+01:00The Gentleman's Magazine - Volume 12 - Page 54...The Gentleman's Magazine - Volume 12 - Page 543 gives an obit. for Lieut. General Samuel NEED from which it is possible to deduce that he was b:c.1766 (he died 18 Aug 1839 aged 73 at his residence Fountain Dale, Notts.)<br /><br />I have also found the following LDS record:<br />Name: Hephiziba Need <br />Event Type: Baptism <br />Christening Date: 29 Sep 1758 <br />Christening Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire<br />Father's Name: Samuel Need <br /><br />1. Lieut. General Samuel NEED c. 1766-18 Aug 1839 therefor this Hephzibah was born before the Lieut. General.<br />2. If Edward Abney married Hephzibah Need on 17 Nov 1779 then Lieut. General Samuel NEED would only have been 3 years old!<br />3. This Hephzibah would however have been 21 years old..<br /><br />Based on this I believe that the Hephzibah Need who married Edward Abney was probably the sister of Lieut. General Samuel Need and not his daughter.Bonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12074986598266344706noreply@blogger.com